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NHL brawls gone and fighting way down, but few see it disappearing

The game has changed, but those playing and running it still see spot for fistcuffs in the sport
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FILE - Minnesota Wild left wing Derek Boogaard (24), left, gets hit by Edmonton Oilers left wing Steve MacIntyre in a fight during first period NHL hockey action in Edmonton, Canada on Friday Jan. 30, 2009. The deaths of old-school enforcers like Derek Boogaard and Bob Probert, who were posthumously found to have chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE, has changed some minds when it comes to glorifying fighting the way it used to be. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Jimmy Jeong)

Minnesota鈥檚 Marcus Foligno took a hit, delivered one of his own to Chicago鈥檚 Jarred Tinordi, and the two big guys

Outdoors in the Meadowlands, it took even less for to spice up the Rangers-Islanders showdown with a fight.

But when Morgan Rielly for firing a slap shot into an empty net? Some pushing and shoving. Nothing more.

鈥淗ow there wasn鈥檛 a brawl there, I don鈥檛 know how everyone didn鈥檛 start fighting,鈥 wondered Todd Simpson, a 50-year-old retired player who piled up more than 1,300 penalty minutes in 580 NHL games. 鈥淭hat should鈥檝e been a big fight.鈥

All of these situations happened over the past month, riveting reminders that fighting is alive and well in the NHL even if it is diminished in many ways.

It has been 20 years since Simpson and his Ottawa teammates got into a fight fest at Philadelphia, a game that still holds the NHL record with Of 40 players who suited up, 23 got at least two minutes of penalty time.

Those kinds of massive clashes are long gone, faded like the in 鈥淪lap Shot.鈥 Like the beloved movie, however, fighting is warmly remembered, even desired, by many fans of the game and cheering on the brawls remains common. Those fans need not worry: Even in the NHL, which has fewer and fewer spots for goons these days, fighting is rare but certainly not gone, with a fight coming roughly every four or five games across the league.

Many in a sport that values standing up for teammates, even as they have watched some of the biggest fighters left shells of themselves by repeated blows to the head.

鈥淚t doesn鈥檛 happen often, but you still have to have it,鈥 said Vancouver Canucks coach Rick Tocchet, whose 237 career fights rank 21st all-time. 鈥淲hen I played, you could really use as intimidation. You can still use it a little bit today but not as much. The staged fighting and all that stuff, that doesn鈥檛 work anymore. But there is a time and place for it.鈥

FIGHTING ON THE WANE

The NHL does not publicly list penalties by type, including fighting and other major infractions. According to HockeyFights.com, there have been 219 fights this season through Monday with 63 more projected before the playoffs begin for a total of 282, which would be a sharp drop from the 789 in 2003-04. That is a 200% decrease over 20 years and significantly down from 645 as recently as 2010-11.

Rule changes are part of the reason. The institution of the salary cap in 2005 made it more difficult for a team to pay a player whose skills were limited to throwing punches and protecting stars. In 2013, it became illegal to take a helmet off to fight and mandatory visors were grandfathered in.

鈥淚t鈥檚 obviously evolved a lot where guys like myself back in the day no longer exist 鈥 one-dimensional fighters no longer exist,鈥 said Riley Cote, who fought 50 times in 156 games with Philadelphia from 2007-10 and countless other times in the minor leagues. 鈥淚t鈥檚 been a natural progression. 鈥 I鈥檓 not sure at the NHL level they鈥檒l ever fully phase it out, but they鈥檙e doing a pretty good job of trying.鈥

No one expects a fighting ban, like the ejection and suspension policies that exist in college and internationally. NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman has said the fighting helps keep tensions from boiling over.

鈥淔ighting, in the spontaneous sense, tends to act as a bit of a thermostat when things happen in the course of the game,鈥 in 2013. Discussing a fight between Jarome Iginla and Vincent Lecavalier, Bettman said, 鈥淚鈥檇 rather them be punching each other than swinging sticks at each other.鈥

WILL FIGHTING SURVIVE?

A by the NHL Players鈥 Association and CBC found that 98% of players at that time didn鈥檛 support the total elimination of fighting. A vast majority of those players are now out of the league, replaced by a generation that has made hockey faster and more skilled than ever 鈥 but still willing to drop the gloves on occasion and wanting that option.

鈥淚t always needs to be in the game,鈥 said St. Louis Blues captain Brayden Schenn, who has fought twice this season but never more than four times a year as a professional. 鈥淵ou need guys to police it themselves, and if you鈥檙e going to run around and make a big hit, you鈥檝e got to know that sometimes you鈥檙e going to have to deal with the consequences.鈥

That is certainly the opinion of Steve Oleksy, who HockeyFights.com credits with 107 bouts at various levels, including the NHL. He is 38 and retired and, after at least a couple of concussions and other wear and tear, is sometimes irritated in noisy places. Long drives and playing recreational sports is hard on his hands, which delivered hundreds of punches over the years.

He believes fighting will be virtually extinct a decade from now.

鈥淚 think it declines exponentially, but I also think the definition of a fight has changed so much,鈥 Oleksy said. 鈥淭he number of actual punches, actual fights 鈥 what we would deem a fight back in the day 鈥 I just don鈥檛 think that鈥檚 there, either. And I think with that comes the rise in incidents like the cross-checking incident, slashing, two-handers, things like that.鈥

Oleksy and many others point to junior hockey and even younger levels of hockey banning or at least discouraging and not teaching fighting as a bellwether for where things are going: Fewer players knowing how to, or being willing to, fight.

FIGHTING鈥橲 LEGACY

Like many sports, hockey is facing the fallout from decades of its players when safety wasn鈥檛 the top priority it is now.

Patrick Sharp, who fought a handful of times as a player and is now in the Flyers鈥 front office, said he cringes when he sees a player鈥檚 helmet come off taking a heavy punch or banging their head on the ice. It鈥檚 what happened to George Parros during a fight in 2013 that left him unconscious after falling face first.

The deaths of old-school enforcers like and Bob Probert, who were posthumously found to have chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE, has changed some minds when it comes to glorifying fighting the way it used to be. Oleksy contends that heavyweights of that vintage are no longer in the game and the risk of serious injury is much less now.

Dan Gallant, who has run HockeyFights.com since 2016, understands the business aspects of the decline of fighting and believes it to be cyclical. Now, general managers are looking for the next Milan Lucic or Tom Wilson 鈥 the big guy who can play hockey first but also can drop the gloves.

鈥淭he types of players that teams are going out and looking for to create that championship team have just kind of evolved,鈥 Gallant said, confident fighting will never totally disappear. 鈥淲ho knows what tomorrow might bring, but I do believe that the players that played the game before, being in the game now and the players that are currently here will make sure that fighting does stay in some form or fashion.鈥

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